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#170181 - 07/28/11 03:40 PM Removing just one testicle?
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Benny has one retained testicle and is now 27 months and I know neutering is recommended for dogs with a retained testicle because of the increased risk of testicular cancer. My last GSD, Eli had both retained testicles and at the vets recommendation he was neutered at 6 months. He died in 2009 of hemangiosarcoma 5 weeks before his 9th birthday. 6 weeks later we lost my sons 5 year old Pit Bull who died after neutering from undiagnosed hemophilia type B. We only have the Pit neutered because it is a law in our town that all Pits be neutered. We do not breed our dogs, they do not get out. I prefer not to mess with nature when possible, and want to avoid any unecessary surgery. . I know that it is much more invasive surgery when the testicle is retained

I have read studies that show that neutering, while decreasing the risk of testicular cancer, increased the risk of hemangiosarcoma

Research web canine

Because Benny is related to Eli on the damís side hemangiosarcoma is in his bloodline as well as the retained testicle. I did not hesitate to purchase a pup from the same breeder, thinking the retained testicle n Eli was a fluke and Eliís mom lived to be 15 before cancer took her. I knew absolutely nothing about bloodlines diseases in German Shepherds two years ago, because my childhood one was so healthy.

I thought that in Bennyís case the best decision was to remove the retained testicle to reduce the risk of Testicular Cancer, but keep the other testicle to reduce the risk of hemangiosarcoma so I I called the vet yesterday to make an apt for Benny for this, along with an xray or ultra pre surgery to find the retained jewel. A breeder told me that occasionally it is reabsorbed by the body and may not eve be there.

The vet tech I talked with seemed to think I was nuts to just have one testicle removed, even though I explained my reasons and implied they would not do it. I made an apt for a consultation with the doctor for next Friday.
The breeders at Covy Tucker ( who someone recommended I write to) told me that in all their years they have never had a case of testicular cancer in a cryptorchid dog and said I should just leave Benny alone.

Would love to hear any experience or insight others have had
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#170189 - 07/28/11 05:21 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: debbieg]
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is covy tucker benny's breeder? or just one you icked to ask this question? i have never heard of doing one, without the other, so i would have torely on the vets information. is this a bother to benny?
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#170195 - 07/28/11 06:00 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: Schnickle Fritz]
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No Covy Tucker is not Benny's breeder, but someone suggested asking them because they have been breeding for years.

Benny is in no discomfort and I am sure would prefer hos testicles left alone whistle

The reason I want the retained one out is because there is an increased risk of cancer in a testicle that is retained and it is difficult to diagnose before it spreads.

The reason I want to leave the descended testicle intact is because there is a higher incidence of hemangiosarcoma in neutered dogs.
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#170209 - 07/28/11 07:22 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: debbieg]
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I had Mac partially neutered to have his retained testicle removed along with a vasectomy.

A few years later he was diagnosed with an enlarged prostate so I had him completely neutered which took care of the prostate problem.

Given the same set of circumstances I'd do the same thing with another dog.
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#170243 - 07/28/11 10:25 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: arycrest]
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There was a lady on Leerburg who just had this done with one of her dogs. Apparently the retained testicle got twisted somehow, causing terrible pain and leading to emergency surgery. The vet was willing to leave the other testicle.
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#170250 - 07/28/11 10:52 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: debbieg]
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No personal experience with this myself but found this when I searched the web.
I thought you might find it interesting.

From;
Veterinary Advice Online: Cryptorchidism (Undescended Testicles).

Quote:
9c) Can the vet just remove the internal testicle and leave the descended testicle intact?
In the case of a dog or cat with unilateral cryptorchidism, just removing the cryptorchid testis and leaving the descended testis intact will go some way towards preventing most of the medical complications of cryptorchidism, particularly if the surgery to remove the retained testicle is performed early on in life (i.e. before the onset of cancer). It is not advisable, however, to just remove the single retained testicle and leave the descended one intact. The main reason for this is that the cryptorchidism condition is hereditary. Leaving the scrotal testicle (which is fertile) intact will enable the cryptorchid animal to father young which will carry the defective cryptorchidism gene/s. In addition to this, if the animal in question is old, there is every possibility that the cryptorchid testis and possibly even the descended testis may contain cancerous changes. Leaving the descended testis intact may pose a risk to that animal should the descended testicle contain cancer.


Sounds from this that the only reason they neuter is to prevent reproduction. If you're confident you can keep your male from reproducing, than I'd see no reason to neuter when you can remove the one "jewel" and remove the health risk caused by it.
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#170253 - 07/28/11 10:57 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: Vinnie]
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Thank you all for the input.
I hope when I explain my reason for wanting only the retained testicle removed the vet will understand. Benny will never be bred.
He is either with me or in the house and mostly he is with me and I just want to keep it that way as long as possible.
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#170257 - 07/28/11 11:09 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: debbieg]
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I hope that if you bring in a copy of some of the studies, etc., your vet will be open to this and not give you a hard time. I have no experience with a situation like this, but it makes a lot of sense to me!
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#170263 - 07/28/11 11:21 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I have known of several males that have had this done. Don't allow the vet to force you to remove the decended testicle. Remove the one and leave the other alone. smile
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#170268 - 07/28/11 11:30 PM Re: Removing just one testicle? [Re: lhczth]
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Thank you Lisa and Lisa for your knowledgeable input and support. It means a lot to me

I am not used to arguing with doctors and probably many of my dogs have paid for this.
I really want to give Benny my best, for him and all of them ( if that makes sense)
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